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cause those were full size 8+ by 11 sheets. The pam- started to have graduation of former Druids, and the phlets were a little more complicated, because you had issue would come up of people who had been Druids to get it to work out right when you folded it over and at the Carleton Grove going off and continuing their cut it. Druidism at other Groves, founding other Groves. I don t know what the history of that is at all, but per- I typed most of the Chronicles myself. I would make haps you can say something about the founding of typos, and then you had to get out the correction fluid Groves elsewhere beyond Carleton. and fill in the holes and wait for it to dry and then retype it. Deborah: Norman was the first. Deborah: All manual typewriters, of course. David: Norman was the first, yes. He was the first of our ini- 453 tial group of three to graduate, and he wrote back that he had found some kindred souls in South Dakota In the original tradition, you had to be an Arch-Druid and was in the process of forming a Grove there. I of a properly constituted Grove in order to admit other don t know whether he ever really officially founded a Druids to the Third Order. I know David Fisher and I Grove or not, but he was the first one to raise the ques- felt that that number three was important in terms of tion of how would one go about doing this, and we demonstrating that you really had gotten something had some correspondence to that effect. There seems going, that it wasn t just one person out there playing to be a logical problem here. In order to have a service games, that there really was interest. Unless you had and to admit new members to Druidism, they had to those three people out there, there was something that partake of the Waters of Life. This was really the only wasn t quite right about having somebody creating other requirement for First Order, to partake of the Waters priests. of Life and subscribe to the Basic Tenets. How could you do that if you didn t have enough people to offici- I guess that s a tradition that has been somewhat modi- ate at a service? Didn t you, after all, have to have an fied over the years, but initially at least, you had to get Arch-Druid and a Preceptor and a Server, and they all another Grove going before you could legitimately call had to be at least First Order? If you didn t have those yourself an Arch-Druid, before you could then conse- people, how could you have a service, and therefore crate other priests. have legitimately consecrated Waters and admit new members? Deborah: To backtrack a little: some of this, Norman s desire to create another Grove, also contributed to this reap- Well, it seemed to me that he was just putting up un- praisal, once the religious requirement was gone, about necessary obstacles, that there was nothing that required what we were doing here. There was some initial dis- any of this stuff. I talked it over with David Fisher, and cussion about whether you cold be a Druid away from we came up with the notion that, well, really, all you Carleton. Norman obviously had a strong desire and had to do was to have a Third Order there to conduct interest to be able to continue to be a Druid while not the service. We came up, really, with the notion of a resident here, and he was really the first person for Mission, almost. In the Episcopal Church, you have whom that became a pressing issue. But that was an- established churches, and you have missions. In other other way in which we got to take a look at this ques- words, you could have a missionary go out and set up tion of what does it mean to say that you re a Druid, a mission. This was a slightly different class of organi- and what does it mean to be practicing as Druids. I zation than an established church or in our case, an recall that particularly some of the times when Norman established Grove. A Mission could be conducted sim- would come back, because he wasn t that far away, and ply by having any Third Order, and the Third Order Betsy was still here, so he would come back not infre- could consecrate the Waters of Life. quently, considering that was one of the things we talked about: did it have to be the same at other places We did have the notion that you couldn t really have a as it was at Carleton? South Dakota never did get to be Druid service with only one person. This didn t make that important, but I think that was kind of foreshad- any sense. You had to have at least two. If you didn t owing of some of the issues that came up later, in the have an elected Preceptor, Server, and all that stuff, the Seventies, in particular, and other places. other people present could as a group do the respon- sive parts of the service. The answers that the Preceptor David: I made an attempt to establish another Grove at my would normally give could just be done by everyone summer camp, where I was a member of the staff. This present. Therefore, having Waters of Life was no prob- was a Boy Scout camp, Camp Ma-Ka-Ja-Wan. The camp lem at all, and once you had Waters of Life, then you itself is in northern Wisconsin and serves a Boy Scout could have First Orders, Second Orders, and every- Council in the North Shore suburbs of Chicago. I ac- thing flowed from that. When you wanted to, you could tually did have about eight or so people there: other adopt a constitution and create a new Grove. members of the staff, for the most part high school students, and so very impressionable. They were will- Our model for this was essentially the CSA model. ing to follow my lead, and they expressed an interest, You want to have a legitimate organization? Write a and we had several services in the course of the sum- constitution; adopt it. We have forms for you; you just mer. use the same constitution that Carleton uses. We ll just fill in the blanks: instead of saying Carleton College, Two of that number expressed an interest in becoming it could say South Dakota or New York, or what- Third Order, and I did consecrate them sort of in ever you wanted it to say. Same three officers; you re- absentia, because by the time they decided they wanted ally only needed to have three people to have a legiti- to do that, it was already the end of the summer and we mate Grove, because then you had a person to fill each were going our different ways. I wanted some sense office. We didn t think it was quite legitimate to have that they had some idea what was going on here, so I the same person fill two offices; that wasn t right. So asked them to write to me some things about their re- you need at least three people, and then you could have flections on Druidism before I would agree to the con- your constitution, you could have your Grove. 454 secration. Since I was not going to be at camp the fol- lowing summer (I was going to be in Japan), I allowed far less comfortable with their presence then than I [ Pobierz całość w formacie PDF ] |